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Reilly Duvolle
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Posted - 2012.03.07 09:59:00 -
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CatreX Nolen wrote:Amusing how people are complaining about him doing something perfectly legal according to the rules AND find it important to post it on the forums.
Who gives a F-
Oh I think there are plenty of people who give a f**k, even if you dont. |
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Posted - 2012.03.07 10:32:00 -
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CatreX Nolen wrote:Reilly Duvolle wrote:CatreX Nolen wrote:Amusing how people are complaining about him doing something perfectly legal according to the rules AND find it important to post it on the forums.
Who gives a F-
Oh I think there are plenty of people who give a f**k, even if you dont. I'm sorry, but it really dosen't matter **** what you think.
The truth is that most EVE players are NOT forum trolls and proffesional a**holes. They read forums (at least many do), but they dont post on them. Taking your own statement as an example of how the "average" EVE player reacts to this is quite delusional mate |
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Posted - 2012.03.07 11:23:00 -
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Ptraci wrote: Seriously, what is wrong with buying votes?
Because the CSM is not part of the MMO we all love to play. |
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Posted - 2012.03.07 14:48:00 -
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What really is sad about this is that people dont seem to differentiate between activities performed by a character named Darius III inside a videogame, and activities undertaken to elect Joseph W Morris, a resident of the United States of America to a real world body responsible for representing the playerbase of said videogame. |
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Posted - 2012.03.07 15:00:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:Reilly Duvolle wrote:What really is sad about this is that people dont seem to differentiate between activities performed by a character named Darius III inside a videogame, and activities undertaken to elect Joseph W Morris, a resident of the United States of America to a real world body responsible for representing the playerbase of said videogame. No, what's really sad about this is that you don't get that Darius III is actually gathering votes from his constituency: people who clearly don't give a ****. They don't give a **** about their votes or the CSM and neither does he. That's a pretty accurate representation of their will on the CSM if he gets on it, whether they intended it that way or not. I am by no means a supporter but I have to give him props for that.
Oh I get that. He is an a**hole. Nothing new there. But still, there seems to be many people not able to differentiate between a videogame and real life. Its pretty scary. |
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Posted - 2012.03.07 15:09:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:Reilly Duvolle wrote: Oh I get that. He is an a**hole. Nothing new there. But still, there seems to be many people in this thread not able to differentiate between a videogame and real life. Its pretty scary.
:ironicat:
Protip: EVE Online is a sandbox. The CSM isnt. |
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Posted - 2012.03.07 15:23:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Reilly Duvolle wrote:Protip: EVE Online is a sandbox. The CSM isnt. Protip: learn about the rules of the CSM election first.
You know what Tippia? I dont f**king care about the current rules of the CSM election. I am talking about the state of afairs as I see it. The fact remains that the CSM is THERE to represent the interests of the playerbase in the continued development of EVE Online, NOT a circus arena for real life trolls like Joseph W Morris.
If people want to troll other players and/orCCP, there are plenty of opportunities both in-game and on the forums. But there should be NO seats in the CSM available for real life trolls like this guy, no matter how many in game that supports him. And in-game scamming people like this to buy votes should result in permanent an immediate ban from the CSM election. Because this is NOT a game. |
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Posted - 2012.03.07 15:30:00 -
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Tippia wrote:and the fact remains that selling and buying votes is allowed; scamming is allowed; and people who engage in both represent the playerbase.
Also, politician makes empty promises to win votes, film at 11.
I specifically stated that scamming to get elected to an OUT OF GAME NON-SANDBOX entity should get you banned, and yet you try to pin on me that I am against scamming in general?
You know Tippia, when it comes to a point where you can no longer differentiate between real life and a videogame, there are perhaps time to scale back and seek some proffesional help. |
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Posted - 2012.03.07 15:39:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:Reilly you should tell Tippia about your inside info on alliance tech moon holdings while you're at it. The comedy's running a little thin on this thread.
I see you resort to control techniques as you really dont have anything intelligent to bring forward. Its okay, many have that problem. |
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Posted - 2012.03.07 15:48:00 -
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Valentyn3 wrote:They are a real life entity that is supposed to represent the community in a game. The game is full of anti-social sociopaths. Darius has made himself out to be the perfect representative for them, in the game, the game that we play, for fun.
And your argument is?
Valentyn3 wrote:You know, when it comes to a point where you can no longer differentiate between a game for fun and serious business, there are perhaps time to scale back and seek some professional help.
Oh but I can. You see, when i start the EVE client, I know I have logged into a video game called EVE Online. A game I play for fun. In which I do stuff i would never do IRL.
And when I log off the client, I am no longer playing the video game called EVE Online for fun, but may instead devote my time to other activities, like engaging in duscussion about how the developer can make the game better and more fun. And yes, that very activity is indeed seriouss business.
You see? In-game - out of game. Its not hard. You should try it. |
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Posted - 2012.03.07 15:50:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Reilly Duvolle wrote:I specifically stated that scamming to get elected to an OUT OF GAME NON-SANDBOX entity should get you banned, and yet you try to pin on me that I am against scamming in general? Try reading. I hear it helps. Yes, you stated that, and I said that vote buying and selling is allowed and scamming is allowed, so there is zero grounds for any bans, and that people who engage in any of this represent the player base so excluding them from the CSM (much less banning them) because they don't doesn't make any sense. Why should they be banned when they're doing nothing wrong? Why should there be no seats for them when they're doing exactly what is asked of a CSM candidate?
Try reading, I hear it helps.
I will repeat myself for your benefit, my dimwitted friend:
I. Dont. Care. What. The. Current. Rules. State.
I am talking about how it SHOULD be. Cant you get ythat into your bonehead now? |
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Posted - 2012.03.07 16:07:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Reilly Duvolle wrote:I. Dont. Care. What. The. Current. Rules. State. For someone who doesn't care, you sure kick up quite a fuss about itGǪ You seem to confuse my not caring for the current CSM rules, with me not caring for the issue about eligibility. How is that even possible? I am amazed tbh. Quote:I am talking about how it SHOULD be. GǪand the question you keep missing is: why should it?
I have told you why it should. the CSM is a real life body - originating from - but NOT part of the videogame called EVE Online. Its job is to represent the best interest of the playerbase in helping the games deveoper develop the games different playstyles (yes include scams, suicide ganks, piracy etc) to the best of their ability - so that the game is enjoyable for the playerbase for yeras to come.
in this picture, the is NO PLACE for real life trolls like Joseph W Morris, who only want to get free trips to Iceland, get girls, cheap drinks and general troll the f*ck out of the developer on THEIR EXPENSE. And besides that dont give a f''ck about the games development, CCP or CSM.
Now tell me why we as a playerbase should be happy to see our subscription money fund that kind of behavoiur. |
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Posted - 2012.03.07 16:51:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Reilly Duvolle wrote:I have told you why it should. the CSM is a real life body - originating from - but NOT part of the videogame called EVE Online. Its job is to represent the best interest of the playerbase in helping the games deveoper develop the games different playstyles (yes include scams, suicide ganks, piracy etc) to the best of their ability - so that the game is enjoyable for the playerbase for years to come. GǪand what about what's presented here disqualifies anyone from being such a representative? Quote:And besides that dont give a f''ck about the games development, CCP or CSM, and who doesnt contribute i any shape or form to what the CSM is supposed to do. GǪand you base this assessment on, what, exactly?
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=70407&find=unread
Tippia wrote:Since the rules are what determine the eligibility, not caring about one but not the other is rather paradoxical.
You seem to be confused about the meaning of the word paradox too. Seeing an issue as important while at the same time view the current rules governing the handling of that issue sub-optimal is not a paradox.
And you avoid answering my question: Why should we as a playerbase should be happy to see our subscription money fund that kind of behavoiur displayed in the link above? |
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Posted - 2012.03.07 16:54:00 -
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Valentyn3 wrote: And yet you still act as though the CSM is some entity separate from the game.
*Spoiler* It isn't.
Oh and by all means continue to use ad hominems in your arguments. It makes it so much easier to point out that you have nothing to stand on. I mean, Tippia pretty much just invalidated your whole argument and you are still going strong.
Spoiler: it is. |
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Posted - 2012.03.07 17:08:00 -
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Valentyn3 wrote:
Guess that's why they post the character name and the avatar picture in the voting menu along with all that alliance gobledy **** that should have no bearing on an out of game team right?. I figure they would just stick to the real name and use a real picture since it's so antithetical to the game and such legitimate business.
yes. CCP post character name and avatars and clearly expects the avatars to travel to iceland too. To bad the connection between new eden and earth was severed all those years ago. Oh well. |
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Posted - 2012.03.07 17:12:00 -
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Alua Oresson wrote:The more you talk about how bad a man Darius is, the more I like him.
Then by all means, vote him in. After all, thats what you really want. |
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Posted - 2012.03.07 17:26:00 -
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Tippia wrote:So nothing of what's presented disqualifies him. Also, the question remains: how does he not represent the player base?
If thats how you feel,fine. We disagree. And i'm pretty sure most players dont like to see their subscription money thrown out of the window funding free trips to iceland for non-working real life trolls like this d**ebag. Including the rest of CSM 6.
After all, you are not who I appeal to. |
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